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Tony Deff
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Not sure what is happening here; it is after much editing of a larger file.
The file was created with 999g (same result in 999i)
When the left margin of bar 4 is increased from 10 to 20, all the notes in bar 4 push to the right, but D5 is still inside the left margin.
If all the notes in bars 3 & 4 are cut and re-pasted, all notes are correctly positioned.
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Re: Mis-positioned notes
« Reply #1 on: Oct 4th, 2025, 2:07pm » |
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Tony,
you should check the Head Offset value in Note Options/General for that note. Probably this offset is negative. The left margin is a reference rather than a boundary. If the earlier left margin was zero, the note remains inside of the bar, but retains its negative offset.
When you apply (or modify) engraver mode, you'd receive a warning, saying that a note is not at its normal position, with the option to correct it.
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Tony Deff
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Sorry, I should have given more detail: head offsets are all zero; re-applying engraver mode changes nothing.
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That makes sense.
Quote:| If the earlier left margin was zero, the note remains inside of the bar, but retains its negative offset. |
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? With any left margin set to zero, no further movement of the first note occurs by setting a negative offset.
Notes are copied and pasted with their offsets — so does not explain the example above 
The file extract is attached for the curious.
Notes C#5 and D5 are accessed not by by double-clicking on them, but to the right of the note.
Two more curiosities:
The default beaming
Deleting any note in bar 2 moves the C#
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Re: Mis-positioned notes
« Reply #3 on: Oct 4th, 2025, 4:56pm » |
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Indeed, the cause here must be different. It's a kind of data corruption, I'd say. An XML export/import fixes that, but has nome adverse formatting effects.
An indirect correction: (with the "limited editing" option set off, of course), delete one of the 8th notes in bar 3, then recreate it; later notes are repositioned, and I didn't notice the signalled behaviours anymore.
on Oct 4th, 2025, 3:47pm, Tony Deff wrote:| ? With any left margin set to zero, no further movement of the first note occurs by setting a negative offset. |
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Yes, but when you later increase the left margin, the note is displayed taking this negative offset into account.
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Re: Mis-positioned notes
« Reply #4 on: Oct 4th, 2025, 5:22pm » |
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Juste to check if you are facing the same bug than me, still not understood by Myriad team:
are you in scroll mode, and does the left side is moving when you perform some actions ?
If yes, write them.
The problem is only graphicall, if you scroll horizontally and go back to the left (beginning of the piece) the notes should appear at the right place, even if there is a larger left margin than it should.
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