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How to move notes of only one line in a staff   Moving_Notes.jpg
« on: Nov 8th, 2018, 3:29pm »
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Hi all,
 
I've got a partiture that has a staff that has a permanent signature on one of the lines. I want to move the notes on the line above with a mole to the line of the staff with the signature. But not the other notes. Saves a lot of moles in the partiture. Can that be done with HA?
 
I've made an example here, to show what I'm looking for.
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« Reply #1 on: Nov 8th, 2018, 4:17pm »
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I'm not sure to understand exactly what you mean...
I guess you are fighting with enharmonics (e.g. you have a Db which sounds the same as a C#).
Actually, there are several ways of doing it :
1- Select all the notes that need changing (right click on each) then Edit>Appearance>General. In the windows, choose the "preferred accidental" (sharp) and OK.
2- Select the whole staff (left click in the left margin, just before the beginning of the line) and then Edit>Appearance>General "Target" tab. Enter the name of the note to be changed (e.g. Db) and go back to the "general" tab. Choose the preferred accidental (sharp) and OK.
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Re: How to move notes of only one line in a staff  
« Reply #2 on: Nov 8th, 2018, 5:57pm »
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That is an unusual key signature.
 
 
what is a mole?
 
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« Reply #3 on: Nov 8th, 2018, 7:05pm »
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on Nov 8th, 2018, 5:57pm, dheo wrote:
what is a mole?

I would bet that it is a mis-translation by Google ("flat" perhaps?)
 
This is a typical case where it would be useful for members to state their native language or country in their user profile.
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Re: How to move notes of only one line in a staff  
« Reply #4 on: Nov 8th, 2018, 10:23pm »
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Oops, you're right, I should have used 'flat' instead of 'moles'... I was thinking in Dutch when I was typing my question.
 
I indeed want to change the D5b to C5#. But only those notes.
Selecting each note, as Bubu suggested in option 1, I can do that. But that will take me a lot of time. That is why I'm looking for an automated way.
I'm now looking into option number 2. Quite a dialogbox...
 
I hope my question is clear now...
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Re: How to move notes of only one line in a staff  
« Reply #5 on: Nov 8th, 2018, 10:23pm »
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on Nov 8th, 2018, 5:57pm, dheo wrote:
what is a mole?

As everyone knows, a mole works secretly, invisible to people's eyes. Could it be a hidden accidental ?  
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« Reply #6 on: Nov 8th, 2018, 10:52pm »
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On second thoughts, I think there's a script to manage enharmonics for the whole score. Look in Scripts>Notation>Notes>Enharmonics Editor.
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« Reply #7 on: Nov 8th, 2018, 11:41pm »
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I've made several attempts and I think I understand the dialog now. Here is how I done it.
1: This is what I want to happen. D5b should move to C5#
2: I Used the dialog and the help instruction. Interesting way of setting up the dialog... I used 0 for pitch shift, as I want a preferred accidental of 'Sharp', as I stated in the 'General' tab. (I think the 'Pitch shift should not be in the 'Target' tab...)
3: After pressing 'OK' it doesn't show me the real results. Only when I pushed the 'Play' button, the notes actually move to the position I wanted.  
 
So it was a bit buggy, but I guess it worked. Thanks to you all!
 
And Bubu, yes, a mole should be hidden, that is what I tried here! They are all looking at me right now !
 
I will look at the Enharmonics script tomorrow.
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« Reply #8 on: Nov 9th, 2018, 11:54am »
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It's definitely the "Enharmonic" script you must use in that case.
 
I use it constantly when I need to get a song from a pdf score and change its tonality to suit the needs of my vocal quartet. The transposition mechanism of HA produces often strange results, e.g. a Fb instead of an E.
Same thing if you import a midi file.
 
By the way: do you really want to use a C# alone as key signature?
"Normal" key signatures are

    F#
    F#C#
    F#C#G#

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« Reply #9 on: Nov 11th, 2018, 2:59pm »
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I've tried the Enharmomics script. That is a lot easier than the complex dialog I used earlier. And it does not show any bugs !!
 
And, ehm, the C# key signature. I just used that because I was looking for a way to move only one type of notes...
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